Re: Problem with adding multiple interfaces on a System

[Jonathan Abbey <jonabbey@arlut.utexas.edu>]

| From sjohnson@godzilla.monsters.org  Mon Aug 17 21:12:29 1998
| To: Jonathan Abbey <jonabbey@arlut.utexas.edu>
| Subject: Re: [Ganymede] Problem with adding multiple interfaces on a System 
| 
| Sorry about the JIT compiler being enabled. I just getting started with 
| learning the in and outs of Java and the JDK. I'm barely beyond the installed 
| and get some application work stage.

That's a good endorsement of the Ganymede install scripts and the package
organization then, glad to hear it. ;-)

| > Out of curiosity, were you using GASH previously, or did you just initialize
| > the server with the GASH schema and go from there entering data?  How large a
| > network are you looking to manage?  Have things seemed reasonably intuitive?
|
| I've not been using any zone maintenance tools, just zone files and vi. I 
| rolled out DNS for my business division, because when I started we had to 
| update 60 hosts files for IP changed.  I'm the DNS guru, which is a state I'm 
| trying to change.
| 
| I've installed and tested all of the public tools listed in www.dns.net. But 
| everything (including GASH) was too limited, too buggy or too hard to use. I 

Yeah, GASH is next to impossible to adopt for people who aren't set up
precisely like we were.  So far as I know, GASH is used in just a handful of
places, despite the fact that it has been downloaded thousands of times.  I
really hope we do a whole lot better with Ganymede.

| looked at several commercial tools, but all of them where to expensive to just 
| maintaining a small DNS zone.  And then I find Ganymede, it's almost just 
| right out of the box, it allows for many administrators and I don't have to 
| give anyone superuser access.
|
| I wanted Ganymede for DNS management, but since my group is up to 82 UNIX 
| servers and down to 5 people I've been thinking very seriously about NIS.  We 
| should have done it before now but there's never been enough time to do it 
| right. But Ganymede may make it a lot easier to maintain.  This year ALLTEL 
| merged with 360 Communications, so my group should be see about 90 more 
| servers.
| 
| Ganymede should would for use right now. I've got just one DNS zone to worry 
| about right now and I can live with just NIS domain right now.  But we really 
| needs about 3 or 4 NIS domains, but I think that I can add that into Ganymede 
| with not much trouble. What I would like in the long term is to have have an 
| enterprise-wide management schema.

Heh, so would we.  Any ideas? ;-)

Speaking of DNS management, that's probably the piece most in need of
documentation and polishing right now.. a fellow here has done some really
good work cleaning up the scripts that were part of GASH to take the GASH data
into the DNS, but all of that can't help but be some tricky, since there's so
much possible variation in DNS practices.  

I'd be very interested in hearing from people who have tried to make
the gash2dns stuff included in the dev releases go...

| I really like what I've seen so far in Ganymede. The custom namespaces are 
| ingenious. Keep up the excellent work.

Thanks.  There have been a lot of things that we were able to take from our
experience with GASH in designing Ganymede, and the namespace stuff is one
of the clever bits.

I take it you've played around with the schema editor some.  Have you taken
a look at the plug-in classes and the builder tasks at all?

We're really interested in getting as much feedback as possible.  At this
stage we're trying to put the finishing touches on things, and then there's
all the documentation to be written.  Feedback from people who have played
with things would help out a lot on both fronts.

| Ease of use? I'm the sort that installs software and starts trying to use it. 
| I figured the Gash scheme are a few wrong turns and retries.  So I guess I can 
| give Ganymede good marks for ease of use.
| 
| Stephen L Johnson
| <sjohnson@monsters.org> 

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Jonathan Abbey				              jonabbey@arlut.utexas.edu
Applied Research Laboratories                 The University of Texas at Austin
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